This move will allow Harper the contol of the Senate, he will
re -introduce Bill C-6 and fulfill his obligation to the Privy Council and the pharmaceutical industry, he needs to be stopped, he’s selling us out.

Hooray for you guys! I love to read the articles that are in the National citizens Coalition!. The article on the Senate appointments in particular. I think it’s about time that things are evened up in the Senate and I love the things that you would like to see change. Those are the same things that my Husband and I have talked about for years. Sometimes I think it may only be a dream of ours that may never become reality. But…. today we are one step closer to making some of those bills come true thanks to Stephen Harper!. Keep up the great work that you are all doing at the National Citizens Coalition. My Hat’s off to you. Sincerely, Margaret Phillips

NCC is right about media controlling the agenda. This will now become and issue as Prorogation has. Its something that seems acceptable under other Governments but not with Conservative Governments.

No wonder PMSH is very selective about Media questions. The message MUST be Crystal clear or Canadians panic. ie The Hidden Agenda. We have policy drafted from Grassroots but its difficult to implement under Minority status.

One thing about Senate seats per Province is this and you may disagree. I am ok with equal power but not necessarily by population(except in Quebec). If PEI and Alberta had same representation, say 4 Senators, at least the power is equal by province. There must be a balance to protect smaller jurisdictions. The same thing should occur in municipalities when Provincial Government dictates down. For example, population growth in a small community. The voice of the people is drowned out by larger numbers. Just my little rant.

I would like to see the Wheat Board become optional for farmers, the kangaroo courts (”human rights commissions”) abolished, and a national debate by scientific experts on the true causes global warming

This will certainly breal the deadlock commons/senate deadlock. However, I’m still not all confident that politicians of all political stripes really understand what’s going on down here in the trenches

The perpetual stalement will finally get some relief from the political obstacle of three weak but aligned political parties which includes the admitted party that wants to split Canada apart.

Canadians, through our media writers, seem to have collective amnesia as to the fault of just such a coalition seizing power without an actual plurality of voters. Mr. Harper should be commended for still attempting to even talk of reforming (or abolishing) the Senate.

National debate in this country is so bereft of any true substance and for that I do blame the partisan media commentators.

This is a nice start. All we need now is a majority Conservative government.
Iffy-Iggy, Taliban Jack and traitor Duceppe bore me to death with “Afghan detainees” (read: Taliban Terrorists). I don’t care. They bore me with what happens to Omar Khadr. If I never hear about him again it will be too soon. I don’t care about proroguing either, Trudeau did, Chretien did it, Bob Rae did it. Not a word about it then. What a bunch of knuckleheads.

I hope we don’t get to be like countries that use religion and evolution whenever it serves their purpose. Democracy should allow the cream to rise to the top, the better person should win out. What burns my butt so much in our system is imperfect people demanding me to be perfect. This double standard is what impedes humanity from progressing and allows corruption to be tolerated. Personally speaking, I think when John the Divine was referring to the four horsemen of the apocalypse,he was referring to the equates an alite club, who’s members were of government, in essence the rich and influent of the day.

I’m waiting for the next big Senate event: The Revolt of the Independents!

These 5 individuals, who hold the Senate balance of power between Cons & Libs, include some “Progressive Conservatives”. Chances are they are so atherosclerotic by now, they have metamorphosed into “outraged Liberals” who still hate Peter McKay, still love David Olive and see Stephen Harper as a facist.

I don’t think the fun is over yet in the Senate, but I certainly hope I’m wrong.

Gaining even tenuous control of the Senate is a good start. The Prime Minister and his members have a huge job cleaning the mess in the Augean Stables left by years of the Liberals’ eroding democracy and establishing a corrupt socialist state. Contrary to what the blatherers in the Media are saying, the Harper government is starting on the long road to restoring something like democracy in Canada.

The Senate, as it stands today, is unfair, unaccountable, and very expensive. Contrary to what many seem to believe, we do need the Senate, to protect the Provinces from the House of Commons. It should, however, consist of TWO members, from each Province, elected by the Province for a term of 4 years, and ONE from each Territory, elected by the Territory for a term of 4 years. Why the Provinces don’t seem to like that, is beyond reason. Of course, those who are already more equal than others, want complete control, which is part of the problem in Canada.

Harper is caught between a rock and a hard place, when it comes to handling the current Senate. He must do something, and it must be done within the rules as they stand today, since he can’t get them changed. Those who complain loudest, are the very people who are blocking change, and demand that the status quo should be maintained (for their own advantage, of course). I say “too bad”. They helped to make the rules, and Harper is simply playing the game, by their rules, which they have used for many years to their own advantage. Change is not only possible, but desirable. The problem is to get the dinosaurs out of the way, and get it done. The dinosaurs, on the other hand, are obviously trying to negotiate a better deal for themselves, rather than looking at the better good of the whole country.

Typical politics.

Politics: Poly = many, Tics = Blood sucking parasites.

If Mr. Harper can not change the senate without constitutional changes that Quebec will never allow then he should add 8 new senator to the senate which he can do constitutionaly . Prorate them to BC Alberta Sask and Manitoba to reflect the changing population paterns and partially restore some democratic population balance for the west. Then we would see a more balanced senate and we might get a better chance at more senate reforms.

Good for Stephen Harper. It is about time we had a Senate that cannot delay block needed legislation that has been passed by the House. Maybe, one of these days, we can even have an elected Senate with term limits and proper representation from all the provinces, not overweighted with Senators from Quebec and Ontario.

Eagle…pull your head out of wherever it is stuck!…I guess it was fine for the Liberal laced Senate to hold this Country up for the last three years on Bills that should have been passed…Harper should get a standing ovation for sticking it right back to the Liberal Senate…looks good on them..if they won’t agree to changes then he can, and has, just out numbered them..what a brilliant move on his part…not bad for a guy the Liberals said would never lead this country….and further kudos to him for not asking the US Government to return the terrorist/killer Kadir… finally a common sense decision by the equally ridiculous Supreme Court….I think when a Liberal Senator’s brain shrinks top the size of a golf ball they put them on the Supreme Court bench…….

I like your shopping list. re agriculture, all the regulations and subsidies impacting agriculture disadvantage small farms, transfer all the wealth to the city (big farms have big mortgages and/or shareholders), and are a direct cause of rural depopulation. We need to change more than marketting boards, we need to free up small farmers to market what they produce. Much of what masquerades as ‘food safety ‘regulation is really ‘kill small farms’ regulation. Does anybody really think no food plant employee ever pees in the cornflakes (or whatever)?

Good for Stephen Harper sure glad he is the P.M. and not Jack or Iggy.He is trying to do with the Senate as he said he would long ago.How could it ever happen with it full of Liberals looking for cushy retirement.We might even see the Triple E in time.Re: cutting spending in the Gov’t.Abolish the Human Rights Commission’s in all of Canada.Stop the funding of Special Interest Groups.It is a disgrace how they are running loose and being paid by us Taxpayers.Get rid of BIG GOVERNMENT.If all this was accomplished it would not take long to bring down the deficit,and lower taxes.I am very weary seeing my heavy tax load funding the phony programs these prople dream up.B.J. Weary in Calgary.

Hopefully this is step one in getting a Triple E senate, Equal ..Elected, Effective. This issue - and others have been stalled too long. Each “E” is important in restoring democracy in Canada. They had to be appointed to bring this about.

I do not know when Ignatieff and Layton will ever learn that you do not mess with Harper. He is a superb tactician and manager. He euchres both those donkeys at every turn. That is probably the reason most of the left wing hate him.

Didn’t Chretien prorogue parliament 4 times?

HIP,HIP, you know the rest, unfortunately we will now have to put up with a atirade from the loud voice of the leader of the opposition small l liberals,( it will not do him much good since his latest statement that HE is not going to call a spring election), as if HE had the power to do so.

Keep up the good moves Prime Minister and here`s to a majority government come the next election, ( get out your crying towels liberals) your going to need them.

It is good that the Liberal control of the senate is gone.

Rather than the triple E senate or some means of electing them, it would be better to abolish the senate and add 100 members-at-large to the House of Commons.

Both BC and Ontario rejected electing members-at-large but B.C.’s was way too cumbersome. Ontario’s plan had the members-at-large to be chosen from lists prepared by the party elite (who have too much power now). They should be chosen from the unsuccessful candidates.
whoever got the most votes would be first choice for that party.

Way to go Prime Minister Harper, now we may get some action in the former dominated Senate. If our Prime Minister is serious about abolishing the senate as it stands now the first order of business would be to put a bill forth immediately for a elected body. Of course after we get some of the bills passed that have been blocked for the past three years.

Liz

Gaining control of the Senate is, of course, of fundamental importance in prying Liberal fingers, one by one, from their last redoubt. Liberals will use any means democratic or not to try and thwart the elected government. They have demonstrated that, even while we are at war in Afghanistan, they will not hesitate to stab our military in the back by trying to fabricate some small political advantage over past treatment of prisoners. They will spend endless hours trumpeting the cause of a probable murderer and terrorist Omar Kadr, as if he were a national hero. Liberals have prorogued Parliament countless times to their own advantage. With the amateurish and left wing media in this country, I wonder if Canadians fully appreciate just what an excellent and principled Prime Minister we have.

Wasn’t one of Harper’s platform planks that he would abolish the stupid long gun registry ? I expect him to get on with it.

Jan 30, 2010. I could not agree more. TIME WE HAD A TRIPLE E SENATE. What we really need are more effective ways and means of getting us out of the financial nightmare we are in right now. Look for hyperinflation in the United States down the road. This is the thinking that a great many money pundits are thinking secretly but most won’t say so out loud. Just how is the United States going to pay back the nearly 100 TRILLION dollars that are going to have to be funded over the next few years?

After we reform the senate let’s become a REAL country and dump the monarchy.

Stephen Harper needed to prorogue parliament in order to get the country back in order! Trudeau, Bob Ray, Chretien and almost all the liberals have done for years without a word from the socialist press trying to rile everyone up!
This country is being run by the socialist Toronto Star and its many cronies such as The Guelph Mercury and Tribune, Hamilton Spectator, Kitchener Record etc. There should be a law stopping the big newspaper from owning so many local newspapers and TV!

great news re the senate , one step towards our original of a triple e sanate tanks to all those who have worked so hard to achieve this victory

What a great first step…we wish the conservatives well.
But ALL the politicians have to start doing what’s right for the country, for the individual, for small business, for the economy…NOT what is good and fat for themselves. ANy chance???

I agree with you completely. For some time now I have likened our so called parliamentary representatives to nothing more than shabby used car sailspersons with very few exceptions. The exceptions were ineffective as they were buried in the spoiled brat dung spewed forth by a majority of hypocritical idiots and flim-flam artists around them.

As far as proroging is concerned, the Libs and DPR members chose to ignore the facts and dismissed the past when proroging was not new and served a usefull purpose. How Bob Rae could carry on as he has with his record for example is no mystery. He craves power and will do anythig to get it - country and morals - be damned.

If my memory serves me correctly, back when our PM was the President
of NCC, the latter advocated the abolishment of the Senate.

This would have freed up millions of tax dollars for health care, education, etc.

We do not need a Senate. Paying salaries and pensions to this body of the Government in these difficult times is something we taxpayers can no longer afford.

I have yet to talk to one person who thinks Stephen is wrong in porogation of the house so where is the media getting their statistics from -guess thin air where they get most of their news these days.I think it’s time clear headed individuals bombarded the Crtc to remove the licences from the media who think they should be running Canada.Think about what is really happening-this Conservative Gov’t is making progress in spite of the fact that they have four political parties & two major net works in opposition to them.God bless Stephen Harper & all his competant crew.All Iggy needs is a pointed hat & a broom to reveal the real him.Can anyone believe the gall of Jack & Bob R. amfyfe

Finally some sensiblity is showen by Harper. He still has a lot to catch up. Now if we can have all politicians booted out after 8 years and have the ones who voted themselves pay increases be noted by NCC or the press for the public to see and vote them out at the next election.